Thinnest in their respective categories

Jul 13, 2010,20:43 PM
 

any enlightenment on the below would be very much appreciated.

i've been trying to sort out the ins and outs of the ultra-thin watchmaking records, but i'm more confused now than when i started.

so the calibre 1200P/1208P (at 2.35mm) is the thinnest self-winding movement currently on the market. i think i've got that straight.

the reason why the 12P (2.3mm) doesn't have that title is because it's no longer in production. right? did it ever have that title in the first place? the 1960 Piaget automatic powered by 12P did set a record for thinnest automatic timepiece, but did that "thinnest" moniker also apply to the movement itself? no source i've referred to seems to have that information.

also, i'm slightly confused as to why the 1208P is actually slightly thicker than the 12P. is it because of the small seconds on the Altiplano 43mm? but there isn't a small seconds on the anniversary Altiplano 1200P and they're basically the same movement. so their current thinnest in-house production movement is actually thicker than their 50-year-old equivalent? surely this is... pretty counterintuitive.

also, the 9P (2mm) was supposed to be the world's thinnest manual movement when it debuted in 1957, but wasn't that position already taken by JLC's calibre 803 (1.64mm)? and what about VC's 1955 calibre 1003 (also 1.64mm)?

i really don't get it...

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Lots of questions! :-)

 
 By: dxboon : July 14th, 2010-00:18
Welcome to the Piaget forum! Give me a beat to look into your post more thoroughly and see what I can dig up for you! Are you considering a Piaget? My favorite is the Altiplano Double Jeu. Do you have a favorite from the current collection? Cheers, Daos

thanks for the welcome...

 
 By: superfly : July 14th, 2010-05:09
and thanks for helping me sort my questions out! it's just really hard to keep all these designations straight, especially when discussing the timepieces in question. as for my favourite, i have to say it's the anniversary edition wg altiplano with black ... 

Keep an eye out tonight for some info. related to your initial questions!

 
 By: dxboon : July 15th, 2010-08:47
As for why I love the Double Jeu, please check out my previous post if you have a second! Have a good one! piaget.watchprosite.com Cheers, Daos

Our friends at Piaget have provided some great insight ...

 
 By: dxboon : July 16th, 2010-01:02
...into their past, present and future in response to your post. You had asked (and hopefully I interpreted your questions appropriately): 1) Was there ever a time when the 12P (2.3mm) held the record for thinnest automatic movement (as opposed to thinnes... 

Thanks so much!

 
 By: superfly : July 19th, 2010-05:09
That really helped clear things up.

You're very welcome! [nt]

 
 By: dxboon : July 19th, 2010-08:35
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A little further clarification

 
 By: ThomasM : July 20th, 2010-14:29
Hi, Superfly, Thanks, Daos, Piaget, for the clarifications so far. "also, the 9P (2mm) was supposed to be the world's thinnest manual movement when it debuted in 1957, but wasn't that position already taken by JLC's calibre 803 (1.64mm)? and what about VC... 

I will ask for additional clarification, TM!

 
 By: dxboon : July 20th, 2010-16:02
Thanks for your questions. Cheers, Daos