Dr No[Moderator Omega - Wristscan]
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Mind-boggling isn't quite vivid enough a term . . .
Sep 14, 2017,03:51 AM
. . . to describe this development, Magnus. Mind-blowing is more like it.
I'm trying to come up with an apt analogy, and the only one I can come up with at the moment is the comparison of solid state devices with vacuum tubes. Totally different, yet essentially equivalent.
Blown away,
Art
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Thank you for a fantastic report, Magnus!
By: blomman Mr Blue : September 14th, 2017-03:10
Very interesting and innovative solution. Looking forward to see how these will preform in everyday life. Best Blomman
Very fascinating!
By: KMII : September 14th, 2017-03:17
Any idea on when these will be available in their portfolio? Apart from the first, piece unique ones?
Wow incredible innovation
By: ed : September 14th, 2017-03:24
Looking forward to hearing more about the watch. Truly remarkable breakthru...
JCB continues to deliver
By: gcTIME : September 14th, 2017-03:39
Value and innovations to manufactures he leads and to the industry. Not only has he introduced innovations, he has applied them to products that are affordable and this can be enjoyed by many end consumers. I find such to be his most remarkable and admira...
Had to read it more than once lol
By: Bruno.M1 : September 14th, 2017-03:44
but this is a game changer, although I have a weak spot for more traditional watches. That aside I feel confident that there is room for both being old fashioned and hyper modern Very well done!
Long term this technology is not in the competition for high end watches...
By: DonCorson : September 14th, 2017-04:09
but it will be a game changer for mid and low end. The potential cost savings are tremendious and that on the most labor intensive and thus expensive portion of the movement, the oscillator. Once these prove themselves on the wrist the quantities will be ...
Mind-boggling isn't quite vivid enough a term . . .
By: Dr No : September 14th, 2017-03:51
. . . to describe this development, Magnus. Mind-blowing is more like it. I'm trying to come up with an apt analogy, and the only one I can come up with at the moment is the comparison of solid state devices with vacuum tubes. Totally different, yet essen...
They have nailed it here.
By: ifraher : September 14th, 2017-04:02
I didn't find the El Primero 21 that attractive on release but here they have managed to blend technology with a sleak case, time only, interesting materials, breakthrough movement, it has a lot going for it. Very positive. Is this another 'El Primero' as...
Great detailled and thorough report Magnus.
By: georgeszaslavsky : September 14th, 2017-04:26
As much as innovative is this movement from Zenith , it makes the range of Zenith watches too Hublotish, however perhaps with a classical dial with luminous hands and indexes , it will be more classical and easier to buy for a Zenith classic watch fact t...
To me it is not so much
By: gcTIME : September 14th, 2017-05:06
How the technology is applied to making watches that are similar or not similar to Hublot or whoever, it is the fact that JCB has continued to innovate and not be necessarily confined to real world application constraints. This is what has been lacking in...
Again
By: gcTIME : September 14th, 2017-06:15
watchmaking is honestly not so much about reliability or accuracy or long power reserve but rather about art and increasingly in recent years, innovations. It is about the spirit of being willing to evolve and to do things differently, even if what is cre...
And Casio just sold its 100M'th G Shock
By: gcTIME : September 14th, 2017-08:39
I don't think sales and popularity necessarily equate to the level of technological competence. As you said, some buy for status, others for practicality, yet still some for the artistic value and uniqueness and personal identity. What I admire is not nec...
finally something we can agree on :)
By: georgeszaslavsky : September 14th, 2017-09:29
Even Patek's complained that the Carrera Tourbillon based on the 02 movement shouldn't be priced that cheaply and yes the v4 and Mikrograph are unique and breath of fresh air for Tag which was and is mainly an assembleur not a true manufacture. Sure it is...
A real watch with a real innovation
By: piccolochimico (aka dsgalaxy1) : September 14th, 2017-05:01
I was waiting for such a discovery since many years, when i realized that nobody wanted to invest in R&D to manufacture a new innovative geometry, with an excellent precision and reliability. To me, the most important aspect is that this caliber is availa...
To break the rules,
By: gcTIME : September 14th, 2017-05:09
First you have to master them ;-) Some keeps breaking the rules while others continue mastering them it seems.
Indeed
By: piccolochimico (aka dsgalaxy1) : September 14th, 2017-05:25
Much easier and cheaper write a sentence than draw a new caliber; this rule apply to the whole sector. I guess that soon this technology will be shared with Tag and Hublot; likely the best is yet to come, in terms of innovative escapements/ oscillators.
Not only for the LVMH group
By: Bruno.M1 : September 14th, 2017-05:33
Other brands will be able to buy it too. A bit like ETA used to be Or like the el primero. So many brands used this legendary movement, zenith might have created another legendary movement that will have impact on the entire watch business
What a revolution!
By: heartbreaker : September 14th, 2017-06:06
Huge congratulations to the women and the men from the Manufacture. I wish this revolutionary innovation could bring a lot of lucky to Zenith. And I find these "Lab" series to be quite appealing too. I hope we will soon have a "Standard", reasonably price...
Finally! It's out in the open
By: MTF : September 14th, 2017-07:38
Magnus, Thanks for the "LIVE" report. It's has been unbearable not to say anything all this time. I asked the current Mrs MTF if money could be spared for such an innovation that comes round only every 340 years but she refused on the grounds that we were...
:o) (nt)
By: MTF : September 18th, 2017-11:46
MTF
On my wrist!!!
By: Ornatus-Mundi : September 14th, 2017-07:44
Magnus ...
Is the case material as open-celled as it appears?
By: cazalea : September 14th, 2017-09:46
It seems one could file one's nails on it while watching the (not) escapement. A wonderful development; a new class of movement where we now have mechanical, Quartz, Spring Drive and Zenith Oscillator. Cazalea
Make a run for it:-)
By: Ares501 - Mr Green : September 14th, 2017-11:18
Thanks so much for live photo!
Congrats!!! 🎈
By: Arie - Mr Orange : September 14th, 2017-17:38
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Yes! (nt)
By: Ronald Held : September 19th, 2017-13:30
NT
Wonderful Report Magnus, thank you and Congrats to Zenith....
By: SALMANPK : September 14th, 2017-08:22
I love the brand and am so happy they are bringing such cutting edge innovation to the forefront. Love the new Aeronith material. I hope they also revive their diving watch line, they have such a deep history in that area. S
Anothers superb scoop my friend!
By: Ares501 - Mr Green : September 14th, 2017-11:21
Marvelous post above all and I'm very happy that one of my favorite brands made such breakthrough! Enjoy Cheers D
Quite an achievement!
By: Brandon Skinner : September 14th, 2017-11:32
Any word how they create the "metal foam" and also, any live photos of A3? That particular combo looks quite appealing. Congrats to the entire Zenith team!
Wow.
By: ei8htohms : September 14th, 2017-14:55
Thanks! _john
This is very interesting
By: Mark in Paris : September 14th, 2017-14:59
Your report is great as always Magnus, thanks for bringing this in here. I remember when I started to get really interested by watches that I was wondering why we didn't have more innovations. Of course I understood quickly (because I'm smart of course) t...
Thank you, Magnus and Sascha, for this excellent report!
By: shortys home : September 14th, 2017-22:50
This innovation clearly derserves a lot of respect, well done Zenith! Now, I am curious to see it in the metal and feel it on the wrist at some point in the future. For now my initial thoights are mixed: It seems to offer plenty of significant improvement...
Thrilling!
By: Marcus Hanke : September 15th, 2017-05:16
I assume this has not been developed by Zenith, but within a hitech think-tank? Where will the series production be located? Marcus
Thank you Magnus for a wonderful piece of information.
By: Alex25 : September 15th, 2017-14:57
In my opinion Zenith is on the right track. However the question of innovations is quite controversial. 1) Purists may claim that the usage of silicon undermines core horological principles. The parts being made by machine present no "warmth" in compariso...
Defy Lab Prototype
By: Sascha : September 16th, 2017-01:04
Dear all, in early 2017 i ´ ve got the chance to take a video shot of an early prototype of the Defy Lab (project name: "X-Time" at this time). It´s a slow motion video and the prototype is in a TAG Heuer case because Guy Sémons Lab is at TAG Heuer so he ...
best part has yet to come ......
By: Bruno.M1 : September 16th, 2017-01:39
a very reliable source said Zenith will offer a watch with this revolutionary movement pretty soon to the public .... for a price ... UNDER 6000 euro ...
Great photo
By: Alex25 : September 17th, 2017-13:45
It explains how 30 components were turned into one.
Finally something that we can consider as a "novelty"
By: Freccero : September 19th, 2017-10:23
Nowadays many brands come up with revolutionary systems, materials and methods but the true novelties that makes watchmaking evolving are very few and as far as I know I think that the Defy Lab is one of those. I have criticised Biver many times for its m...
Epic Report. Opus of technology...
By: patrick_y : September 19th, 2017-22:35
Wow. That's an amazing piece of technology. Looking forward to seeing this cutting edge Zenith (no pun intended) in the flesh. Great report!